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The Pythagorean Comma

by REGINALD BAIN


The Pythagorean comma

It is interesting to note that a sequence of ever higher 3:2 "fifths" never produces a frequency ratio that can be reduced to the ratio 2:1.{1} For example,

Fig. 1. Calculating the Pythagorean comma: 12 3:2 fifths vs. 7 2:1 octaves, 129.75:128
 2:1-related with F3?
PitchF3C4G4D5A4E6B7F#7C#8G#8D#9A#9(E#10)
No. of 3:2s 123456789101112

Calculating from F3 up 12 fifths: (3/2)12 = 531441/4096 and produces the pitch E#10which is 129.75 times higher than the original starting point. By comparison, 7 octaves above F3,(2/1)7 = 128/1 produces a tone 128 times higher. From a musical point of view, it would be nice if these two numbers were the same. Of course, they are not. This type of discrepancy is called a comma. A large number of such discrepancies arise in tuning theory. As theorists discovered various commas, they usually them assigned a unique name. For example, and the discrepancy discussed above which arose from the Pythagorean tuning process scale is called the Pythagorean comma. Its size may alternatevly expressed as the ratio 531441/8092, 129.75:128, 23 cents, or about one-fourth of a semitone.

Hear the Pythagorean Comma

Fig. 2. Twelve ascending 3:2 fifths above C2 vs. seven 2:1 octaves above C2 does not produce the same pitch.
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Updated: September 24, 2002

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